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		<title>Hedge Fund Job &#8211; Generalist or Industry Specific?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A question I often get asked when candidates are applying to various buy side positions (including hedge fund jobs) is whether it is better to come from a generalist background, whether that be product group from an investment bank (i.e. leveraged finance) or from a specific industry group, whether that be on the banking or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question I often get asked when candidates are applying to various <a href="www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com">buy side positions</a> (including hedge fund jobs) is whether it is better to come from a generalist background, whether that be product group from an investment bank (i.e. leveraged finance) or from a specific industry group, whether that be on the banking or research side.  In my opinion it really depends on what kind of hedge fund you want to join / be a part of.</p>
<p>A lot of the smaller funds rely on generalists to cover a lot of industries.  These people will have a very good understanding of valuation but there industry contacts / insights will not be as deep.  At larger funds, I think coming from a specific industry can be invaluable.  And since most people that visit here are looking to join &#8220;name brand&#8221; funds, I am going to focus on this industry expertise and how you can use it as leverage to secure your hedge fund job.</p>
<p>Typically people trying to make it to the hedge fund world would investment banking analysts, recent MBA graduates, other buy side (including hedge fund) professionals, and sell side analysts.  All of theses categories can do what I am about to explain &#8211; In my opinion though, the sell side analyst will have the biggest advantage at this point just for his/her ability to try reach management teams.</p>
<p>Before we get started, we need to pick an industry.  I am going to use the shipping industry because it&#8217;s one I have never personally covered to any real extent.</p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s find the 5 companies in this space: Go to a Bloomberg and type: NSE Shipping &lt;GO&gt;.  Look for a company in the space&#8230;I see Teekay.  Pull up Teekay in Bloomberg and type: PVH &lt;GO&gt;.  Now we are getting somewhere.  This list shows the Bloomberg Peers of Teekay.  Jot all those down (It&#8217;s a long list):</p>
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<td height="17">DIANA SHIPPING INC</td>
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Now what I would do is note the names and number of each companies&#8217; CFO and Investor Relations.   If you have capital IQ you can make this process less cumbersome.   If you can&#8217;t find the IR contacts name, it will be on their website.</p>
<p>With company names, CFO and IR names and numbers, it is start figuring out what analyst covers these guys.   Again using TK as an example type TK EQUITY ANR &lt;GO&gt;.  This pulls up all the analysts that cover TK.   On Bloomberg, you can click through the analyst&#8217;s name to get their number as well (as well as other credits they own).   Note these names down.  And then go back to some of the other companies (the ones with the largest market caps will have the most coverage generally) and take down names and numbers of other analysts as well.</p>
<p>Now, start researching.  Read a bunch of 10Ks and Investor Presentations.  Get an understanding of the business.  AND THEN START DIALING.  Talk to as many of these people as you can &#8211; if they blow you off &#8211; who cares &#8211; Do not just TAKE value, also give value.  For example, if you are talking to XYZ CFO you can say something like &#8220;I probably shouldn&#8217;t be telling you this, but I was talking to ABC CFO last week and he said shipping rates in the Mediterranean are weak&#8221; &#8230; You get the gist.</p>
<p>After your first round of calls, I would say you probably should have interacted with 50% of the list.  And do you know what you do now?  You call them again next month and the month after.  You ask about industry events these people are attending, or conferences, or trade magazines.  Once you get into the thick of it, your contacts will increase exponentially.</p>
<p>And that is how you get industry knowledge and a deep industry contact list.  It&#8217;s simple but VERY few people that read this will go out and do the work necessary.  No emails either &#8211; dial for dollars.</p>
<p>I once went into an interview and the second question I was asked was: &#8220;Who do you talk to in the retail space?&#8221;  I listed the vendors, CEOs, CFOs, IR professionals, reporters, sell side and buy side analysts that I knew in retail.  Not only did I list them, but I provided color on what these people were saying about the industry.  That is valuable information.  Information is the most valuable commodity?  I think so.  Do this work, and next time when you go into a hedge fund job interview, you will be prepared to blow them away with your industry knowledge and contact list.</p>
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		<title>My Three Favorite Hedge Fund Interview Questions</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often get asked, &#8220;Hunter &#8211; what are typical <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/">hedge fund interview questions</a> for XYZ fund.&#8221;  Now, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on whose vantage point you are coming at it from), I have not interviewed at all funds out there.  And I know each fund has a different set of interview questions for different candidates.  For example, I know of one fund that literally asked probability questions throughout the entire interview process for one candidate, and then barely asked any for another candidate friend of mine.  Alas, I do not have a silver bullet.  But when I am in the interview seat, I like to ask three interviews questions of all candidates:</p>
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<li><strong>What are your thoughts on the equity / credit markets?</strong> &#8211; Now, technically this is unfair because I generally have little conviction one way or the other in terms of where the market is going to get in the next month or three months or six months for that matter.  Instead, what I am trying to get to is how you approach market valuation and really who you read / listen to.  If you quote something from <a href="http://www.johnmauldin.com/">John Mauldin</a> I will probably come away more impressed versus quoting something from AJC (if you don&#8217;t know what whose initials those are, you probably should start reading more).  I am not looking for an answer such as &#8220;I think the S&amp;P; 500 will end the year at 1150&#8243; &#8211; I am looking for things like what is happening with capacity utilization here and abroad, where inventory levels are at retailers across the country, what is going on in train traffic, etc.  I want to see that you are interested in these things and have a view point that you can articulate well and can base in factual data and not solely water cooler opinions.</li>
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<li><strong>What is your favorite investment right now? </strong>I do not want to hear about your best investment from 2005.  I want to know if I gave you $5M in capital today, and you had one shot, where would you invest said capital.  If you say &#8220;Well &#8211; nothing is really interesting right now&#8221; I may just ask you to leave right there.  Again, I might not agree with your assessment and frankly could be short a long your propose, but if your reasoning is sound supported by fact, you may have my ear.  Every candidate that goes into a buy-side interview must come equipped with two or three ideas he/she can succinctly present (and defend) because that is how you are going to add value in the trading room</li>
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<li>I will pose four investment alternatives:  <strong>You rank them in order of preference. 1) A single site casino 2) A single peaking power plant 3) A commodity chemical company 4) A regional retailer.  Note: All 4 companies have the same top line. </strong>I hope no one I interview is reading this post right now because that is a unique question, but I truly think it sheds light on how an analyst thinks.  This question is solely for credit interviews mind you, but could be spun for long/short equity funds.  In my opinion, there is a correct answer, but I have heard fantastic explanations of why I was completely wrong. For this type of question, I want you to list the pros and cons of each of the four alternatives and then tell me how that relates to credit spreads, default risk, recovery rates, etc.  I know it sounds tough, but each of you should try this exercise on your own and see what you come up with.  Hell, shoot me an email and I&#8217;ll debate it with you if you want.</li>
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<div>Over the next month, we hope to have the new site laid out and on a new server. We plan to have our own hedge fund job board, and contributors helping candidates out with<a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2010/06/my-three-favorite-hedge-fund-interview.html"> buy-side interviews, resumes, and case studies</a>.</div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste">First of all, thank you to all readers who have sent me emails over the past few months. We are lucky to have such a strong readership.</div>
<p><div id="_mcePaste">Secondly, I wanted to announce that I have begun development on a new layout / format for the site which will combine hedge fund and buy-side interview, resume and career tips, as well as a number of articles myself and a few colleagues have penned over the past few months. If you would like to contribute, please contact me at hunter [at] distressed-debt-investing [dot] com.</div>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;you should probably also know how to set one up as well as a hedge fund&#8217;s basic structure. The world wide web yet again comes up strong in a INCREDIBLE document from www.howardrice.com which I have embedded below. On any hedge fund interview, you may want to have these things in the back of your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;you should probably also know how to set one up as well as a hedge fund&#8217;s basic structure.  The world wide web yet again comes up strong in a INCREDIBLE document from www.howardrice.com which I have embedded below.  On any <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com">hedge fund interview</a>, you may want to have these things in the back of your mind so you know what you are getting yourself into. Enjoy!
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		<title>Hedge Fund Interview Part 4</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the final series in our posts on hedge fund interviews. In this post, we will talk about the &#8220;take-home&#8221; case study offered at many hedge funds. As discussed in our last post about hedge fund case studies done at the office, sometimes a fund or other buy-side shop will ask the prospective analyst [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the final series in our posts on <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/">hedge fund interviews</a>.  In this post, we will talk about the &#8220;take-home&#8221; case study offered at many hedge funds.  As discussed in our last post about <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2010/01/hedge-fund-interview-part-3.html">hedge fund case studies</a> done at the office, sometimes a fund or other buy-side shop will ask the prospective analyst to do both an at home case study and an in-office case study. In a way this is an advantage as you will be able to showcase your talents in prep work and on the fly.  For this post though, we will be exclusively talking about the at home case study.</p>
<div>A lot of what we are going to talk about is similar in form to the case study performed solely at the office.  Generally speaking the analysis will not be too dissimilar. You are still going to discuss expectations and valuation and capital structure.  But you are going to do it in greater detail, and with greater presentation.  Remember, the amount of time given is a key factor in determining how much work to perform:  You could be given a week, or maybe a few days.  For our purposes, let&#8217;s assume you are given the case study, and then given a week to complete it.</div>
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<div>Unless otherwise specified, your resources at this point are unlimited.  I have yet to hear of fund limiting the applicant&#8217;s use of certain resources on a take-home case study (i.e. &#8220;You can only use the 10K from last year&#8221;).  Because you can draw on so much information, you are going to need to go FURTHER to differentiate yourself from other applicants.  At this point in the process, there will be probably 2 to 3 other people competing for your position.  How are you going to stand out given that the other applicant are probably just as qualified as you?</div>
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<div>I would take the first few days given and read as much material on the company as possible: Annual reports, sell side reports, commentary from the internet, proxies, industry magazines, industry studies, competitor&#8217;s annual reports, etc.  Dig deeper on this one &#8211; do searches on the CEO/CFO and see if you can find them speaking anywhere at industry conferences.  If there has been a recent change in management, dig into the history of the current CEO/CFO and see how they did at their former position.  Were they strong capital allocators? Did they grow just to grow?</div>
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<div>After you have beaten every bush out there for information, it is time to start doing some of your own due diligence.  This process will depend on the company at hand, but effectively you need to be contacting three types of people 1) Management / IR 2) Competitors 3) Customers/Suppliers/Low-level workers.  <br />Let me discuss each in detail.</div>
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<div><strong>Contacting management/IR</strong>:  After going through mounds and mounds of information, you are bound to have questions.  These questions may come from some discrepancies you heard in the last conference call or maybe on a simple accounting concept that you may not quite understand from the most recent 10K.  I would suggest first contacting IR and being as friendly as possible with your questions. Do not be adversarial as you want these people on your team.  Why?  Because unfortunately a lot of times these people are the gate-keepers to the CEO/CFO.  At the end of your initial conversation with the IR personnel, you should say something to this effect: &#8220;I was wondering if we could set something where I could talk with the CEO/CFO for a few minutes later in the week.  I will probably only need 15 or so minutes.  You think that could be arranged?&#8221; &#8230;. Sometimes they will say no.  And sometimes they will say yes.</div>
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<div>If you get a yes, you obviously need to get moving because your <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2010/01/hedge-fund-interview-part-3.html">final hedge fund interview</a> is only 5 days away.  If you do get a chance to speak with the CEO/CFO, you will want to ask them some questions about their thoughts on allocating capital, and some thoughts about the future.  Even if you only get fluff from them, you have done the hard work speaking to management which will show you go the extra mile during the interview process.</div>
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<div><strong>Contacting Competitors</strong>: Theoretically, if you play this right, this is where you should get the most information on the company you are doing your case study on.  The reason is that people view their industry very differently depending on their relative market shares.  Meaning, a #2 competitor in a certain industry will have different thoughts on pricing mechanics, volume trends, future on the industry, than the #1 competitor.  Further, a lot of people in the industry know one another, and know one another&#8217;s outlook/strategy.  Differentiating between these may bring to light certain dynamic trends that would not be readily apparent from simply reading a sell-side report.</div>
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<p>When you call these competitors, you are not going to start out by asking about your &#8220;case company.&#8221; You are going to want to build a rapport with these people by asking them questions about their own company and their own thoughts on the industry.  From here you can drop in things like: &#8220;How do you think (case company) thinks about pricing over the past few years and what does that mean for you and the industry?&#8221;  Sometimes, you will again just get a lot of fluff, but every now and then you might get a spiteful SOB that really likes to sock it to his competitors.  If I were you, I would call at least three or four competitors.  You could get a good number of sound bites/relevant information that you could use when presenting your case.  Again, even if the information you draw from these conversations is different from what your interviewers want to hear, you are showing you have gone the extra distance in seeking out information.</p>
<p>Finally, <strong>supplier, customers, and lower level workers</strong>:  This is by far the hardest of the process, and requires the most amount of pushing yourself to dial the numbers and asking questions.  You will be hung up on.  You may not get any information that is relevant to your case study.  But on the off-chance that you do get information, this information could be game-changing.  For example, I once called up a number of customers for a company that manufactures pipes used in infrastructure construction.  Every one of them told me that their orders were being pushed back because of state/municipal budget deficits and they had no idea when spending would return.   Now this information is good &#8211; but it becomes great when management is telling the analyst / sell side community that orders have no slowed down as of yet.  Was the CEO lying?  Probably not &#8211; he was probably just relaying what his COO was telling him &#8211; who was relaying information his subordinates were telling him, etc, etc.  A lot can be lost in translation when there are five or six layers between the sales force and the CEO.</p>
<p>Effectively, the analyst community and management is setting expectations that are no way close to reality &#8211; and that&#8217;s when the information becomes GOLD.</p>
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<div>The question then becomes &#8211; who to call?  In honesty, I think it depends on the industry.  Hopefully, when you spoke to management and their competitors you got same names of people you could follow-up with.  If not, industry magazines / rags and Google searches will save the day.  If it were a retailer, I would call up 30 of the stores and just chat up the customer service professionals.  If it were a tech company, I would contact some of their larger distributors or suppliers.  Just keep dialing &#8211; give it a few hours at least &#8211; if you can&#8217;t seem to be breaking any ground &#8211; you at least put in the effort.</div>
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<div>Now you are equipped with LOTS of information &#8211; How are you going to distill it down into something presentable.  As before, we want to come up with what the market expectations are for our company, and want to present information that conflicts / supports those expectations. As in the <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2010/01/hedge-fund-interview-part-3.html">hedge fund case study you perform at the office</a>, you want to understand the drivers of a business and then model those drivers out.  The market, generally set by the sell-side, will have expectations for a company&#8217;s volume, or sale per square foot, or whatever the drive may be.  Hopefully, the qualitative information you collected from management, competitor, suppliers, will give you better insight into those drivers than your peers.</p>
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<p>You then build the model.  If I were you, I would do a full-blown income statement, balance sheet, and cash flow working model.  This model should be heavily footnoted with assumptions on things like days sales outstanding, deferred tax assumptions, etc.  Doing a three-statement model shows competency in excel.  Make sure the formatting looks like a banker spent a few solid all-nighters on it as well.</p>
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<div>Equipped with the model and your drivers, you can then build up valuation metrics.  I would do all three of the big ones: Comps, Precedent Transactions, and a Discounted Cash Flow.  For comps, do all the relevant ones to the industry.  For precedent transactions, look at as many recent proxies in the industry as possible &#8211; reference / footnote these as well.  And for discounted cash flow, make a sensitivity matrix with discount rates and terminal values to show that you understand that DCF&#8217;s are simply approximations.</div>
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<div>With valuation and model in tow, I would slap together two pages at most &#8211; with lots of bullet points with your thesis and why you think the stock is over or undervalued.  If you come up with the valuation being &#8220;uncertain&#8221; i.e. a hold &#8211; then look for somewhere else in the capital structure that may be appealing.  I have never really liked it when potential applicants come in and give basically a &#8220;No Opinion&#8221; &#8211; Yes, there are times when a stock price is accurately reflecting all information out there &#8211; but this isn&#8217;t just a random stock &#8211; this is a stock that was given to you where the fund probably has some preconceived notions about &#8211; I doubt they would give you something they have not already looked at.</div>
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<div>With your thesis, valuation, and model in tow, you are ready to present.  You may want to also have a handout backing up your assumptions on drivers versus the market expectations.  On this, you would lay out some of the conversations you had with management/competitors/customers etc, with as many quotes as possible.  Again we are trying to distinguish you from YOUR competitors in this hedge fund interview process.</div>
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<div>As I wrote in the previous post: &#8220;After you have presented your hedge fund case study, you will be barraged with questions. You will not know the answer to every single question, but you should the majority. If you do not know the answer to the question, do not make up an answer.&#8221;</div>
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<div>Again &#8211; this is true &#8211; but I would not give the same reason &#8211; I would try to re-frame the question into something you do recall from a 10K &#8211; Further, you should bring as much reading material with you as possible &#8211; this material should be earmarked, highlighted, etc for this specific reason &#8211; so that if you do get pressed for an answer &#8211; you will be able to come up with one.</div>
<div>And remember &#8211; you have done the hard work &#8211; now its just time to close the deal &#8211; and get hired into that hedge fund job you&#8217;ve been working so hard for.</div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the third edition of our series on <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/">hedge fund interviews</a>.</p>
<div>For part 1 and part 2 of the series:</div>
<div><a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/10/hedge-fund-interview-part-1.html"><strong>Hedge Fund Interviews Part 1</strong></a></div>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/11/hedge-fund-interview-part-2.html">Hedge Fund Interviews Part 2</a></strong></div>
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<div>This post will discuss probably the most crucial part of the entire interview process: the final case study.  This case study will either be &#8220;in-office&#8221; or prepared at home. This post we are going to focus in on the in-office case study, and for the final post of the series, we will discuss the take-home case study.</div>
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<div><span style="text-decoration: underline;">In-office case studies:</span></div>
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<div>This is where the hedge fund or buy-side institution will tell you before hand that when you come to the office you will be given X number of hours and a certain amount of materials (10Ks, recent conference calls, sell-side reports), and then you will need to prepare an investment recommendation.   You may be given Excel, or maybe a <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-error">Bloomberg</span>, or maybe just some paper to work your thoughts out on.</div>
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<div>These case studies can last anywhere from 1 hour to 3 hours (I have heard of more, but never been subjected to them&#8230;thank the hedge fund gods).  They are intense and stressful &#8211; especially when you consider how far you&#8217;ve come in the interview process &#8211; and that the whole outcome of the hiring may depend on where you come out on the case.</div>
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<div>I am going to assume for the extent of the post that you have been given Excel but no <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">Internet</span> access &#8211; you are only given a stack of papers and a stock price.  Here is how I would approach a similar situation:</div>
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<li>Read as much of the material as humanly possible.  No, this does not mean you have to read every single clause of a credit agreement, or every single line of a 10K.  You should have enough experience at this point to know what you can skip over and what you cannot skip over.  I rarely skip over the 10K footnotes because that is where you can find information that is not being readily appreciated by the market (for the positive or the negative).</li>
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<li>Once you have the material read, you should have some kind of understanding what the market is anticipating via a sell-side report or a Q/A session from recent conference calls. You can use the estimates from the sell-side report to get a sense of where market consensus for top-line and bottom-line figures are and you can use the Q/A session to get a feel for what qualitative concerns market participants have for the company.  For example, if someone on a recent conference call asks: &#8220;So, what is the timeline for the new casino opening and how confident are you that you will be able to open on time?&#8221; &#8230; That analyst and probably a bunch of buy-<span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-error">siders</span> who called to ASK that analyst are worried that delays/cost-overruns might push back a project and hence the estimated earnings and cash flow in future quarter.  Write the pertinent questions / concerns down.</li>
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<li>You then want to identify the main drivers of both business performance.  Really it should only boil down to two or three extremely relevant line items.  For example, for a wireless company it could be # of subscribers and <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-error">ARPU</span>.</li>
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<li>With concerns and drivers in hand, you will now set out to build your model / valuation sheet.  If you can build a three statement model in an hour or so, well then by all means do it, but I suggest really focusing on those two or three drivers you identified above, and zeroing in on them and determining how they affect cash flows and earnings.   This model should also include things like: capital structure, liquidity, and pertinent covenants.  It should also break down the businesses if the company has two or three business lines&#8230;.why? Because hedge funds love sum-of-parts analysis.</li>
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<li>With the model in hand, you now need to go about and value the business.  If I were you, while I would definitely talk about things like P/E, I would spend much more time on business specific valuation metrics, such as value/subscriber or EV/room key.  If you have them, use comps in this segment, and comp these business specific segments of your case company to its competitors.  Finally, and as noted above, hedge funds love sum-of-parts analysis.  When you value a business using sum of parts, you always want to create a company at some level.  For example, if <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_4" class="blsp-spelling-error">XYZ</span> business has three business lines, what I would do is value business A, then value business B, and then figure out where the market is creating business C (it doesn&#8217;t have to be in that exact order, but you get the idea).  If the market is creating business C at an absurdly low multiple relative to peers, well maybe you have an undervalued business.</li>
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<li><span id="SPELLING_ERROR_5" class="blsp-spelling-error">Ok</span>.  So you have a model, and a valuation&#8230;from here I would clean everything up so it can fit on two pages.  Now you fill in with qualitative information: Quick overview of what company does, management&#8217;s record on capital allocation, description of business lines, any major corporate actions in the past (spin offs or bankruptcy filings for example).  You then list your thesis &#8230; i.e. a 4 or 5 sentence paragraph of why the company&#8217;s stock is cheap or overvalued.  This should take into affect the market expectations and drivers you narrowed down earlier in the exercise.  For example (maybe a wireless company):  <em>At $15/share, the market is anticipating declining margins and top line growth at <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_6" class="blsp-spelling-error">XYZ</span> company.  While top line growth may be slowing, cost per gross user addition [driver] and fixed costs in the form of salaries employees per subscriber is declining.  This will enable <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_7" class="blsp-spelling-error">XYZ</span> company to boost operating margins to levels far above where the market is anticipating.   Even if margins stay flat to where they are today, sales would have to drop 15% a year for the next three years to justify current trading multiples.  With increasing margins, and a more reasonable decline in sales, combined with a market multiple, the stock of <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_8" class="blsp-spelling-error">XYZ</span> should trade to $25/share</em>. Your Excel model, combined with valuation metrics, should be able to justify this valuation with a pretty strong margin of safety.</li>
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<li>After the thesis is in tow, you should add some qualitative strengths and weaknesses for the company.  You should know these by now, but if not, look back on the concerns / comments the sell-side had during the Q/A</li>
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<div><span id="SPELLING_ERROR_9" class="blsp-spelling-error">Ok</span>.  Case study completed.  Three hours is up.  Time to present your case study to your interviewers / investment committee.  Now, I&#8217;ve had situation where it is just me and a few other analysts / PM or in other cases where it is the entire front-office &#8211; founder of fund all the way down to the execution traders.  I think this really depends on the culture of the firm: I personally would like to see everyone there which shows me that the team is a cohesive entity without a few people call every single shot.</div>
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<div>While you want to take your time in the presentation of the case, you do not want to go into every gory detail.  You give a quick overview of the company, and its business lines.  You talk about what the market is concerned about.  You give a valuation.  And then you give them your thesis.  You back up your thesis with the Excel file that all of the interviewers should have in their hand at this point.  Talk about where you are creating the company, talk about WHY you think the market is wrong in anticipating margin declines, talk about HOW the market is missing <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_10" class="blsp-spelling-error">XYZ</span> factor.  Even if you only have a 10K to work with, you should bring to light things that even those that have read the same annual report may have missed.</div>
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<div>Why?  They want to see your attention to detail.  To be honest, given a 10K and a few conference calls, I could reasonably argue for the bull or bear case of any situation you could throw at me.  In my experience, the opinion really does not matter all that much (unless of course its the funds largest position).  What matters is the process and how you think about the situation.</div>
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<div>Something I have not mentioned above, but you should have a reasonable understanding how the fund you are interviewing looks at companies.  Do research.  Read Value Investor Insight, or other interviews with the principals of the hedge fund to see how they think about situations &#8211; are they a <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_11" class="blsp-spelling-error">GARP</span> shop or a deep value, hidden catalyst shop. You may want to think about at least tossing in this methodology when you do your case study.  But I caution: Do not become a clone&#8230;these people want to bring on analysts that are smart, can think on their feet, and can bring diverse experience and opinions to the mix.</div>
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<div>After you have presented your <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/">hedge fund case study</a>, you will be barraged with questions.  You will not know the answer to every single question, but you should the majority.  If you do not know the answer to the question, do not make up an answer.  Say: &#8220;To be honest with you, I&#8217;ll have to get back to you on that &#8211; I would like to read a few more 10<span id="SPELLING_ERROR_12" class="blsp-spelling-error">Qs</span> or conference calls to get a better sense of the issue you are asking about&#8221;  When you answer, always draw examples from previous situations you have encountered in the past where you might have substantially more experience and hence are bringing the case study back on &#8220;home court.&#8221;  But most importantly, be confident in your work and your self.  You made it this far, now all you have to do is bring it home.</div>
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<div>Stay tuned next time for our final series on hedge fund interviews.  This will finish what I had initially set out to accomplish for the how to get a <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/">hedge fund job blog</a>.  After that post, I will be announcing a new offer to readers to help them in the hedge fund job search process.  Stay tuned for that as well.</div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>In our last post, we talked about the <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/10/hedge-fund-interview-part-1.html">first round of a hedge fund interview</a>.  This post assumes you have made it to the second or third round of the interview processes (i.e. your hedge fund resume has already been finely scrutinized).  I have heard of funds that go five or six rounds and others that go three rounds (first round = intro, second round = more intense, third round = case study).  Nonetheless, the rounds following the first &#8220;meet and greet&#8221; round will be much more intensive challenging both your intellect and your ability to get along with others (along with your ability to think on your feet).  It will also be the time where the possible hedge fund ranks you in relation to the other candidates in which you are competing.  This is where the fund begins in the quest to secure a hedge fund job.</div>
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<div>Generally speaking, in the second round you will meet more people you did in the first round.  If the fund is small, you may meet the entire front-office investment team.  Each of these people may even be allocated some time to grill/quiz/feel you out.  The interesting thing about hedge fund careers is that many people have taken different routes to get to their position.  And that will influence how they interact with interviewees.  Some may pose highly technical finance interview questions (&#8220;Calculate the economic pension expense and relevant adjustments to the cash flow statement&#8221;) and some may pose truly &#8220;softball&#8221; questions that you should, if you have read anything I have written, be able to knock out of the park.</div>
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<div>During the second round, you will probably again sit down and talk with your main &#8220;contact&#8221; at the fund.  This should be a friendly meeting and you should call back some of the things you talked about in the first conversation.  For example, if the interviewer had told you he/she was working on a particular investment idea, ask for an update.  You need to show these people that you live/die/breathe/eat/sleep investing.  You want to show that you are curious and like to solve the puzzles that the world of finance in its asymmetric information pose to us on a daily basis.</div>
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<div>From here, you then will begin to meet other members of the team.  Approach these interviews exactly like you did in the first round &#8211; try to get a conversation instead of an interview.  Showcase your knowledge of certain investments with logical and clear arguments.  They will pose questions, most likely ones that threaten your underlying thesis.  They do this because this is how investment committees function &#8211; an analyst presents an idea, and the other people try to rip it apart.  As they say in sales: &#8220;Know how to handle objections&#8221; &#8211; in this case the counterarguments to your thesis.</div>
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<div>Sometimes interviewers will ask technical questions.  These should be easy if you have read my other blog or have any practical experience in the field of investing.  I have always suspected that these questions were more used to filter people with high levels of educational clout on their resume but little real world experience.  That being said, be prepared for them.  These questions could be anything from &#8220;Calculate Free Cash Flow to the Firm&#8221; to &#8220;How can you determine a companies&#8217; maintenance <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">capex</span> in a deflationary world?&#8221;  You should know the answers to these questions &#8211; especially as they relate to your case study that you presented with your hedge fund resume.  If you were a hedge fund analyst in your past, these are the kind of questions you had to ask on the job and the senior analysts rolled their eyes at and reluctantly answered.</div>
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<div>Hedge fund recruiting, especially from an interviewer&#8217;s standpoint, is difficult.  Think about it: A hedge fund analyst&#8217;s salary can range anywhere from $100,000 to $300,000 depending on the years of experience.  That is a pretty big nut.  And you are expected to make a choice on this person in 3-5 meetings which maybe span 10 hours.</div>
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<div>So how do you improve your chances you do not pick a hedge fund analyst failure?  You call contacts that you may have at the interviewees past experiences.  Let&#8217;s say a junior banker at DB wants to jump to the buy-side.  He makes it past the first round hedge fund interview (using techniques described in the last post).  At the second round the stakes are raised &#8211; so the hedge fund starts calling people that they know working in banking at DB to get a sense for their potential new star.  The comments they get about you will form the basis for the questions they will ask you in subsequent rounds.  If someone tells me this junior DB banker has problems with detail, I will pose questions that will zero in on this, because the last person I want to hire is someone who forgets to carry the 1 in a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">DCF</span> or comp sheet.  Banking careers, or any finance career for that matter, really hinges on networks of people and your value to those people.  A hedge fund cover letter or hedge fund case study is not going to benefit you in this stage of investment management recruitment &#8211; your network will though.</div>
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<div>So, you have met with three or four of the other front office people at this point.  As noted above you want to make these more like conversations and not interviews.  Definitely talk about the job role that each of them perform at the fund &#8211; whether that be industry coverage, or certain products a trader may trade.  Exploit what you know.  </div>
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<div>Remember, after the interview, they will talk about you &#8211; they will comment on any little flaw they can if you are not &#8220;their #1 choice.&#8221;  Everyone has a favorite, and at the end of the day, the leader of the pack will make the decision &#8211; but the subordinates&#8217; opinion weighs heavily on whoever is making the hiring decision &#8211; and thus you want to be <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">every one&#8217;s</span> #1 choice.  Things I have heard my own coworkers say these complaints about for interviewees:</div>
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<li>&#8220;He was nervous&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;She had a little bit of weirdness to her&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;I do not think he will get along with <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">XYZ</span> person at the fund&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Maybe a little too cocky&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;He had no idea what he was talking about&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;She talked in generalities and just would not focus in on the specifics&#8221;</li>
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<div>Etc, Etc, Etc.  The point is &#8211; you will not be perfect in <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">every one&#8217;s</span> eyes &#8211; but you should be pretty darn close.</div>
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<div>Nail the technical questions, keep it a two way conversation (instead of a real interview), exploit what you know, and you should get the callback for the next round, which is the dreaded hedge fund case study.  That will be the subject of our next post<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be the first part in a series of posts on the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">in&#8217;s</span> and <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">out&#8217;s</span> of interviewing at a hedge fund &#8211; more specifically, what actually goes on during a <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com">hedge fund interview</a>.  Oftentimes, I get emails asking what sort of hedge fund interview questions to expect or if I have any hedge fund interview tips.
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<div>A hedge fund interview is really a series of interviews.  This post assumes that you have made it past the resume filtering stage and that you have an interview scheduled and ready to go. If you remember if a previous post, <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/08/hedge-fund-case-study.html">Hedge Fund Case Studies</a>, I suggested you prepare a comprehensive case study and attach that to your resume when you send it off.</div>
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<div>The benefits are numerous to this approach.  But one stands out when preparing for the hedge fund interview:  You have just given yourself an advantage in terms of questions the interviewers will ask.  Upon reading the case study, the interviewer will generally try to outfox you with questions related to the subject companies industry, or management, or historical trends etc.  You should know all this cold and furthermore enlighten them with new, fresh information that cannot be found in sell-side reports.</div>
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<div>So what to expect at your hedge fund interview.  Depending on the shop, as I have interviewed at a fund with many billions of assets and at a fund with less than $50M of assets, you will probably meet with a few senior analysts, a portfolio managers, and if the fund is really big, an HR person.  </div>
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<div>In my opinion, the HR person has effectively very little say on the hiring process. They will ask you layup questions like &#8220;What are you hoping to get out of this opportunity&#8221; and provide you with basic information about the job / specifics etc.  These &#8216;fluff&#8217;  interview questions, which sometime appear in interview guides, are in my opinion, worthless.  If an HR person asked me what my goals were, and I said, &#8220;To fly to Mars in a hot air <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">baloon</span>&#8220;, I do not think that would derail my hiring chances if I blew the analyst / PM away.  Only slightly kidding.</div>
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<div>That is a long-winded way to say, don&#8217;t worry about the qualitative nonsensical questions.  Just don&#8217;t come off as a nut-job and you should be <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">ok</span>.</div>
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<div>So the real test comes when you start to sit down with some analysts or a portfolio manager.  This post really relates to the first interview and as mentioned above, who you meed with on the first day will change with asset size / availability of the PM.  If you think you will walk into Harbinger at Round 1 of the interview process, and chat it up with Phil <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">Falcone</span>, I believe you are mistaken.</div>
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<div>The first thing you want to do is to get into a rapport with the person you are interviewing with.  No one just likes sitting around and asking a person he / she just met a series of questions.  You should get into a DIALOGUE with the person sitting across from you.  Talk about what industries he/she is covering.  If you feel you are reasonably well acquainted with the industry, talk about some metric or trends currently showing up in the earnings of the companies in the industry.  Talk about buy-side or sell-side contacts  you might know that also cover the industry.  If you have no idea about anything related to the industry, change topics to an industry that you do know a lot about, using phrasing such as&#8230; &#8220;The health care industry?  Interesting. The CEO of &#8216;<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">XYZ</span> Company I know a lot about&#8217; used to work at &#8216;ABC Company in the Health Care Industry&#8217;&#8230;and then just start plowing about a topic you know a lot about.</div>
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<div>Too many times, someone will come into the office and interview and talk about something that he/she should not be simply because of lack of knowledge.  Don&#8217;t try to impress me with your rudimentary knowledge of <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">LCDX</span> or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">CDX</span> relative recovery value that you read off a sell side report a few weeks ago.  Put the ball in your court on something that you can add value to.</div>
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<div>For example, as discussed in my main blog, I used to be the Enron analyst at a previous fund. I spent so much time on Enron, while it was in bankruptcy, it makes me cry.  When I started looking for a new job at a larger fund, I always dovetailed the conversation back to Enron.  I would not bog the interview down with disturbing details on double dip claims or the relative attractiveness of the Class 4 with S vs the Class 4 w/o S but I would talk generally about the topic to showcase that understood the situation very well and if called into question, I could defend my position handily.</div>
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<div>So you are establishing rapport with this person, talking about thing that you have knowledge of.  From here, you should try establishing if the two of you have any acquaintance / friend in common.  This doesn&#8217;t have to mean you two are Linked In buddies &#8230; it more means that you are finding a common ground with this person.  For example, let&#8217;s go back to the Enron example.  Many times the Enron analysts at the distressed desks of major investment banks also covered a few other situations.  Maybe it was <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Worldcom</span>/MCI or something like <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Conseco</span> or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">Finova</span>.  By establishing a similar network, this person interviewing you can call up this contact in question to check you out.  You, in the meanwhile, will also call this connection, and will say &#8220;Oh.  I met <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">XYZ</span> person at ABC fund yesterday.  Said you two worked on <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">Conseco</span> together.  Etc Etc.&#8221;  This is also another check for the interviewer that you are a decent person that will work well on the team.</div>
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<div>Now, at some point, this person will ask you questions. In my past experiences, these questions will fall into one of five broad categories.  Here are the categories and examples, in decreasing order or frequency&#8230;i.e. #1 = you will always see:</div>
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<li>Personal Experience Questions: Give me a 5 minute run down of your education and past experiences?  What was it like working on a trading floor?  Did you enjoy investment banking?  How were portfolio decisions made at your old shop?  What industries have you worked in?  Etc.</li>
<li>Case Study Questions:  How did you go about your research? Did you talk to management and if so, what did they say?  Who are the competitors and what is the margin structure of the industry? What do the covenants look like?</li>
<li>Views on the Market/Individual Stocks:  What do you think about the market? Have you looked at <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">XYZ</span> Situation?  What do you think about it?  Where are interest rates going? Any sectors you currently bearish/bullish on?  Any stocks you like here? (as an aside, above all single questions, that is the most frequent one of the whole list)</li>
<li>Technical Knowledge:  How do you calculate <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">FCF</span>?  How do you calculate the cash conversion cycle?  Do unsecured note holder want a high or low valuation in a bankruptcy?  What is fraudulent conveyance?  Etc.</li>
<li>How you think Questions: Why are manhole covers round?  How many Christmas Trees are sold in the United States?  If you had two companies with identical capital structures, how would you decide which one to invest in?  What is the most important thing you look for on the balance sheet?</li>
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<div>Rapport has been established.  Questions asked.  You should have impressed him/her by now and they probably should already think you deserve a round #2.  They will then ask if you have any questions for them.  Yes.  You always have questions for them.  The questions I always ask:</div>
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<li>How does an analyst get ideas in the book?  Is there a give and take with the PM, group discussions? How is the idea generation process performed? Etc.</li>
<li>If they have not already delved into it, the history of the fund and its founders and the background of the interviewer.</li>
<li>Historically, what has distinguished the people succeed in the culture of the firm and moved up their responsibility?</li>
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<div>In the next two parts of this series, we will discuss the more in-depth, and usually technically second round, and finally what to expect for the at-home or in-office case study.</div>
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		<title>How to Get a Hedge Fund Interview</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that you have your hedge fund resume in hand and prepared your hedge fund case study, it is time to work on getting a hedge fund interview (or buyside interview for that matter). Unfortunately, this is where a lot of the guessing games come in to play. As noted before, if your resume and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you have your <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/08/hedge-fund-jobs-hedge-fund-resumes-part.html">hedge fund resume</a> in hand and prepared your <a href="http://www.howtogetahedgefundjob.com/2009/08/hedge-fund-case-study.html">hedge fund case study</a>, it is time to work on getting a hedge fund interview (or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">buyside</span> interview for that matter). Unfortunately, this is where a lot of the guessing games come in to play. As noted before, if your resume and case study get in front of a certain portfolio manager, and that portfolio manager is having a bad day your shot for getting an interview has just got down. It has nothing to do with you and importantly, throughout this process, you should not take things personally or get yourself down if you do not get a call back or you feel like your resume has been launched into the nether void.
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<div>In the following <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">paragraphs</span>, I am going to list out some ways that I have garnered hedge fund interviews, along with methods friends have as well.  I believe these techniques work for most <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">buyside</span> organizations as well as sell-side in certain circumstances. Most people though want to get to the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">buyside</span> and therefore I will tailor my remarks to that.</div>
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<div>In my mind getting the hedge fund interview first requires finding where the jobs are. Compounding this problem is that fact that some funds are constantly interviewing people waiting to find the perfect gem. And if they do not find that one person that fits them perfectly, they will have gained a lot of diverse investment opinions.  Why?  Most of the first questions I get on hedge fund interviews (or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">buyside</span> interviews): &#8220;What do you like in the market?&#8221;</div>
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<div>If I were to narrow the techniques / methods for getting a hedge fund interview, here is what it would boil down to:</div>
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<li>Utilizing the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Bloomberg</span> JOBS function. If you have access to a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">Bloomberg</span> (or if you do not, ask a friend), type in JOBS <go>. This is a fantastic tool that in my opinion is underutilized because many people wanting the jobs do not have <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">access</span> to <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Bloomberg</span>. I promise you: One of your friends will let you come into their office <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">after hours</span> and use his/her <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">Bloomberg</span>. You realistically only have to check it once a week for the type of job you are actively seeking.  If you are looking for a distressed job make sure you are searching for the right things: high yield analyst, credit analyst, bankruptcy experience etc.</go></li>
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<li>After searching through the JOBS function, you write down the contact name / information for each possible job. Somethings these jobs are actually written up by the particular organization hiring and sometimes they are written up by headhunters. If they are written up by the fund / company hiring, what you want to do is survey ALL your contacts to see if they know someone at that fund.  This is why Linked In is such a powerful tool (if you search hunter [at] distressed-debt-investing.com, you can find a Linked In profile I just start in order to help link readers). So let&#8217;s say your find a job posting that was put up by someone at <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">Glenview</span> Capital.  From there you would search far and wide until you had a <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">reasonable</span> &#8220;in&#8221; at <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">Glenview</span> Capital.  Maybe your best friend is a lawyer and he has done some work for the fund and knows a few people there.  Maybe your neighbor&#8217;s nephew is in the IT department there.  It doesn&#8217;t matter.  The key is connecting with this contact and bringing up that you heard <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">Glenview</span> was hiring and asking, quite frankly really, how you can get your resume and case study in the door.</li>
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<li>If the JOBS posting was written up by a headhunter, your goal is to befriend / impress that headhunter like it is no tomorrow.  Headhunter&#8217;s generally only send their best resumes / job seeker to the best funds. You have to convince these guys you are the smartest man/woman on earth.  Further, you have to provide something of value to the headhunter: Other clients, i.e other funds / organizations that are looking to hire.  Most people will have a contact here or there that is of value to these guys.  Give a little / take a little.  As you move up the short list on the headhunters radar, you will hopefully see a nice flow of jobs.</li>
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<li>So now lets say you have extinguished the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">Bloomberg</span> JOBS function, and gotten no where with possible contact at funds or through a headhunter&#8230;what do you do?  The easiest method is to go to one of your friends that has used a headhunter in the past, ask for an introduction, and see what he/she has cooking.  Again, you need to give these people some sort of value and you need to impress them.  If you have laid out your resume like I suggested, and worked and tightened up your case study, you should not have a problem. Build a rapport with this person so that when a particular job comes up (make sure you define exactly what you want), you will be the first name to come into their head.</li>
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<li>Let&#8217;s now go a little bit more extreme and say: You have no <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16">Bloomberg</span> Access and know no one that has used a headhunter:  Now you use your network by asking everyone you know who is hiring.  And then you do as suggested above.  You get a mutual contact to make an introduction to get your foot in the door.  Just finding out <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">Glenview</span> is hiring and sending your resume to hr [at] <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18">glenview</span>.com or whatever the email address may be will not work.  It just won&#8217;t.  I know it is easy but it will not work.  Make sure when you have your resume forwarded, you also have your case study forwarded &#8211; this is essential.</li>
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<li>Finally, let&#8217;s say you have no access to <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19">Bloomberg</span>, or no social network at all that might clue you in on who is hiring.  This is where the bold &#8220;Cold Emailing&#8221; comes into play.  A week or so ago I posted a number of hedge funds / buy side shops that would be particularly interesting places to work.  Using the power of the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20">Interweb</span>, you should be able to back into 1) Who is in charge of said hedge fund / buy side shop and 2) How their email address are structured&#8230;.i.e. First Name.Last Name @ <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21">XYZ</span> fund or <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22">FirstLetterofFirstName</span> + <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23">LastName</span> @ ABC Fund etc.  You then write mini-cover letters, attaching your resume and case study and send these babies out.  If you are particularly interested in impressing, you could instead send handwritten letters to each of these people (with resume / idea printed out inside).  These mini cover letters need to essentially say that you heard that the fund was possibly hiring (even if you had no clue if they were hiring), introduce yourself and the skills / competitive aspects your bring to the table, introduce your case study and close with saying you can contact me in the case they are indeed hiring.  I know this is bold and possibly boisterous &#8211; but three of my friends work at some of the best hedge funds in the world via this technique.  </li>
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<div>So your job &#8211; right now &#8211; is to figure out 1) What specific job you want in the hedge fund world and at what kind of shop 2) Go out and seek those jobs via <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24">Bloomberg</span> or your network of contacts 3) And pound the pavement.  Even if you do not get an interview, if your case study is good, people will remember you.  Write down a goal to reach out to 10 different funds via the method described above.  Got to start somewhere.</div>
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<div>Now, why not use something like Career Builder? Generally speaking, so many people are on those sites that your odds are much better in the techniques described above.  I have always found that the easy way out with limited upside and generally little success.  Getting a hedge fund job or breaking into the hedge fund industry is not easy &#8211; but with a little tenacity, a solid network of contacts, a great resume and case study, you can at least get the hedge fund interview.  From there it is smooth sailing.</div>
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